The following is a complete, unedited transcript of an e-mail exchange between Carl and Alan Caruba, a writer and PR counselor in the US.
Carl: Good morning.
I found your article on line, including the line "a handful of rogue climate scientists were literally inventing the data to support it." Unfortunately, that statement is false. It's true that some scientists used language they should not have in e-mails they didn't expect would end up on the front pages of newspapers, and in doing so ended up doing a great deal of damage to the cause of science. But many investigations have reaffirmed that the basic underlying data is unchanged and still valid. As well, the university in question is one source of climate data; there are other very credible sources in the US and elsewhere, and their data shows the same trends.
So, just to clarify: no fabricated data, just a couple of frustrated scientists who wrote things they shouldn't have. If sound journalism is to prevail, perhaps that is an error of fact worth correcting for your readers.
Carl Duivenvoorden
(With full contact information)
Alan: You are free to hold onto your global warming delusions and even to share them, but "the basic underlying data" was and is false. Carbon dioxide plays no role in climate change and satellite data indicates a cooling trend since 1998. This information and the total debunking of global warming is widely available.
iceagenow.com
climatedepot.com
icecap.us
climaterealist.com
tomnelson,blogspot
wattsupwiththat.com
Alan Caruba
Carl: Hello Alan.
Sorry - I'm just a reasonably-minded person who hopes that others are reasonably-minded too. Either virtually all climate scientists on the planet are involved in a vast conspiracy - and are doing amazingly well at it, even getting the polar ice cap and glaciers to cooperate - or perhaps something's really happening. It's long been scientifically validated that CO2 DOES play a role in climate change, as does water vapor - except we have no role in the latter. If data debunking climate change is so widely available, why is the world's scientific community not accepting it? There are plenty of scientists who'd love to be the next Galileo or Copernicus and turn the world on its ear - but they don't go there because there is no data to support it.
Scepticism is fine, but out-and-out denial is close-minded, unscientific, journalistically unethical and a pretty poor excuse for discourse. Perhaps you'd like to check out this link, which is science based and not an opinion piece or blog: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100728_stateoftheclimate.html
Carl Duivenvoorden
Alan: You obviously have not gotten the word that both NOAA's and NASA's climate pronouncements have been discredited as well.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Alan C.
Carl: Hi Alan.
Discredited by what credible source? Science please, not blogs.
And - no need to be nasty, really. Truth is not about personalities, and reasoned conversations are better than swipes and snipes.
Best regards,
Carl
Alan: If you weren't such a cretin, you would know that the blogs cited are entirely devoted to SCIENCE, and not the propaganda about global warming.
Having replied politely in previous emails and having better things to do than bother with you, here's a final message. GO AWAY.
AC
Carl: Hi Alan.
Wow - you withered, degenerated and retreated more quickly than most in the face of honest and legitimate questions. Insulting someone from afar is a pretty weak way to end a conversation. I did check a few of those blogs, and they didn't seem very scientific to me; I'm usually a bit worried when I read the word 'wacko' on a supposed scientific source.
I'd be interested in knowing what these 'better things' that you have to do are, given that facing facts does not seem a priority. "GO AWAY" isn't quite the scientific answer I was looking for.
Best regards,
Carl
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